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  1. § Dave Ely said on :
    There's a lot of hate out there for Jeff Merkey (the previous links includes a link to The collected writings of Jeff V. Merkey, at kerneltraffic.org).

    It's not a pretty picture.
  2. § root said on :
    You are quoting a copyrighted story without permission of Client Server News. You also are totally out in the weeds on the validity of a mixed OS.
  3. § joe® Email said on :
    This goes to show how much you know about copyright.

    1) I am quoting excerpts from the linked story. Under 17 USC 107 (the Copyright Act) I am permitted to quote without permission. Specifically,

    [T]he fair use of a copyrighted work [...] for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.


    If Client Server News feels similarly, they are welcome to file a takedown notice under section 512 of the Copyright Act with my ISP, UC Berkeley.

    2) My only contribution to this debate was concerning trade secrecy. The only way you can get around the limitations of the GPL viz a viz Linux is to have a "compilation" much like RedHat does... as of now, I just don't have enough information about GaDuCi to say more. (There are more than a few ways you could distribute it legit.)
  4. § root said on :
    Comment posted IAW 17 USC 107 pertaining to Josephs Copyrighted comment :-)

    " ....as of now, I just don't have enough information about GaDuCi to say more. (There are more than a few ways you could distribute it legit.) ..."


    Thank you for evidencing the intelligence and open mindedness to accept the possibility there can be an open source instrumentation that can contain protectable trade secrets. We don't live inside a university and we have been litigating for over 200 years in the real world -- much of that time with people shooting at us (really). Trust that we may know a little bit about this and what we are doing.

    :-)
    Thanks
  5. § _Arthur said on :
    "We don't live inside a university and we have been litigating for over 200 years in the real world..."

    But Jeff Merkey, the author of the GaDuGi StealWare, doesn't lives in the Real World.

    According to Judge Schofield, in Novell vs Timpanogos (1998):
    "Merkey is not just prone to exaggeration, he also is and can be deceptive, not only to his adversaries, but also to his own partners, his business associates and to the court. He deliberately describes his own, separate reality."

    Now Merkey proposes to hide behind Cherokee Laws to launder purloined IP and to escape his GPL obligations.

    _Arthur

  6. § Random Cherokee said on :
    Speaking for myself and my relatives, I am glad that the tribal council has taken Mr. Merkey's proposals off the agenda. It makes me feel ashamed to have any connection to him or his questionable plans.
  7. § tech_nix_yoda said on :
    I just read the LinuxWorld article on Merkley and the nations. http://www.linuxbusinessweek.com/story/47716.htm

    Is she serious? Is this "journalism"? I thought they covered yellow journalism in English 101! My God!

    Check out these drops from the article. The following are not quotes from a Nation member, but rather from O'Gara herself.

    "...the Cherokees would ride roughshod over open source's precious GPL..."

    "...that could be a bit of a problem for the GPL huggers."

    "...wily to the ways of the white man..."

    Ok, from just a professional standpoint, why would I even consider this for a second? I mean, they are acting like I have to consider this from a reparations and ethical standpoint. HELL NO!

    Hey Jeff, remember Martin? I am sure we would have a lovely conversation on this. I am sure he would kick your tail for this stunt.

    This is the more racism, bigotry and hatred in this "professional" writing then I have seen in a long time from any "professional "article from an "independent" source. Maybe her and the media arm of the KKK and al Queda can get together and compare methods.

    Ok, we have seen landgrabs before. but this is first time it has ever been done with such obvious racial overtones with it.

    I am part Cheerokee man, and that scares me. he is creating a situation where if anyone sues it will be the Nations with fat targets on their asses.

    He is hiding behind history and empathy, he is doing it for his own gain, and I feel at this point it deserves to have a reaction from the community beyond the silence of total confidence.

    The more I read this, the more I think that Jeff is USING the CN for his own advancement. This might be the worst use of attempted racial empathy I have ever seen. Everyone KNOWS that high tech costs high dollars to defend, and by hiding behind the Nations he is putting an already disadavantaged group at risk of being the target of some high dollar suits.

    Hiding behind 200 years of other's sacrifice is nothing but shameful.
  8. § foo bar said on :
    Jeff Merkeys plots plans and psychotic rants include the theft of linux
    place cursor over any name read the source
    http://www.linuxbusinessweek.com/story/47716_f.htm
    look for www.ga ga du du .org. Also google for merkey.net (a personal website like, smith.net or jones net jeff merkey found the and made life interesting for them he gave them lemons they made lemonaode Seraphim Proudduck is a google thing)
    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=110366372620023&w=2
  9. § R_U_A_PITA said on :
    The truly funny part i find is that in searching the "OFFICAL" Cherokee.Org is that i can not find merkey in the search this site. Nor can i find any software, or programs under the title of gadugi. I have done other investigating, which can be found on the net, so i won't bore you with that, I will however share with all this. Jna 10 there was some software realeased by the Cherokee Nation, and in looking at url, I fail to find Merkey's name anywhere:

    http://www.cherokee.org/CurentNewsRelease.asp?ID=1415

    Please do not think that Merkey is a representive for the Cherokee's, Living in Okla. and being part Cherokee, I know he is the rare exception.
  10. § joe® Email said on :
    I'm going to close comments on this subject as no one seems to be addressing substantive issues anymore.

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