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  1. § Ping said on :
    I fail to see how this proposal is even a valid theory, since it is not falsifiable. If the universe really is nothing but a user interface for us, then no experiment we can observe will show that to be true or false. Hoffman's proposal wouldn't account for dark matter, dark energy, or anything we can observe. And regardless of whether or not the universe is "just an interface", there are still patterns by which it works, and our scientific theories and laws remain valid and worthwhile models for understanding those patterns.

  2. § joe® Email said on :
    It's a theory... but not falsifiable, true. Can you find a definition of the noun "theory" that requires provability or falsifiability? I sure can find a bunch (the OED is full of them) advocating a more broad interpretation to cover any possible explanation.

    That was the point of the question, in a sense... although hoffman (and others polled) went overboard and included things they believe that might not ever be provable. There is a lot of theory in cosmology (I withstood a qualifying exam in the subject for my astrophysics masters) that doesn't lend itself to provability... unfortunately, unless we make other breakthroughs that question the fundamental structure of the universe, we won't be able to test any of them. And I absolutely agree with your last sentence.

    I find theories that aren't falsifiable or provable to spook me out... once when I was young and had done my first or second hallucinogen, I was convinced that mine was the only real consciousness. It spooked me out. I couldn't, via any method imaginable, prove that all other humans were conscious... struggling with each decision, feeling each feeling, etc.
  3. § scott said on :
    Yeah, I believe this to be profoundly true: "The world of our daily experience - the world of tables, chairs, stars and people, with their attendant shapes, smells, feels and sounds - is a species-specific user interface to a realm far more complex," but I don't buy that it is "a realm whose essential character is conscious." I think it's just beyond our ability to comprehend, since all we can comprehend is our own interface to it. Imposing any metaphor, like, say, consciousness, upon it is a step in the wrong direction. We are ants attempting to make cosmological sense of the Grand Canyon in terms of pheremone scent. It just cannot be done. We're DNA in human suits dunked in the dark deep ocean of the universe and all we can fathom is the cold shock of the void, the taunting terror of its magnitude, and the soft caress of its thermal contrast with our dissipating urine.
  4. § joe® Email said on :
    Bitchin'... I definitely agree that knowing the "essential character" of the Universe is probably beyond our ability to comprehend... and it seems silly to claim that something that's a unique feature of a species on our planet - consciousness - is it.

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